Episode #131:David Jockers, DC- Ketogenic Diet Meals, Carb Cycling & Mistakes

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41:50 Ketogenic Diet Misconceptions: It is not the Atkins diet. It is not tons of bacon and butter on everything. The focus should be on consuming high levels of phytonutrients. …..A common mistake is the consumption of poor quality fats and proteins. Also common is the creation of a high protein diet rather than a high fat diet. High protein turns into sugar. We need the fat.

33:01 Post Meal Blood Sugar for Ketosis: The sweet spot for ketosis is 50 to 80 between meals. The longer that your blood sugar is up, the less your body will create ketones.

18:40 Ketones in the Brain: Ketones are the brain’s preferred fuel source. They also increase levels BDNF (Brain-derived neurotrophic factor), which has a positive effect upon neurogenesis, the formation of new cells and synaptic density.

35:24 Carbohydrate Cycling: Everything and everyone is individual. In general, Dr. Jockers recommends to his patients to once a week, ever day or every other day, to have a higher carb meal. It is better to do in the evening hours, because it will have a positive effect upon lowering stress hormone and producing serotonin and melatonin.

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49 Replies to “Ketogenic Diet Carb Cycling w/ David Jockers, DC”

  1. Very good interview. A lot of great info, I especially I loved the part where Dr. Jockers stated that he prayed over his boys in the morning. I just have one question, my fasting bg is between 80-86, so does that means I'm not in ketosis? I read that as long as the bg was under 100 then you were in ketosis. Can someone explain this?

  2. This guy makes better sense than any other keto-guru re. "cycling in and out" of keto , but lets face it , how ppl f.e with low thyroid suppose to normalize their thyroid glad when they're on meds already for it ?

  3. Another chiropractor
    jumping on the fad diet train

    On diet advice stick with bodybuilders that compete,

    They know more about diet than any so called internet dr.

    Bodybuilders have been using Keto for more than 25yrs

    I dont consider a chiropractor a real doctor ,
    So watch out for these guys

  4. David – I have PCOS/PCOD and am new to keto. It's been great so far. The carb up that you mention throws me off. It's my understanding that people might take several days to get into a keto state so carbing up 12-24hr cycles wouldnt work. Also wouldnt that confuse your system. I could see doing it once a month or so though.

  5. Ketogenic lifestyle is the best way to live.  It's fabulous.  You'll never feel better in your life.  I love these interviews with naturopaths and functional medicine folks.  I've learned so much.

  6. I try to reintroduce carbs after 3 years without them but I keep getting horrible insomnia everytime I try to get on them. Why on earth do I have problem digesting carbs now?? I'm desperate for a solution. Thanks!

  7. DC vs a PhD… nope.. I'll stay in nutritional ketosis… and I'll rather listen to Dr. Volek on the futility of carb cycling… get the people on homemade raw milk kefir and other lactofermented foods prior to ketoadaptation will kickstart a new balance in the microbiota that will enhance the digestion of the increased fats when going keto. And yes, it is very easy ro bring down a dairy intolerance with homemade raw milk kefir made from grains… This is one of the most misleading position that I have listened to on carb cycling.

  8. Some interesting stuff. Really wish he wasn't a chiropractor. Also I think the anti-cancer stuff is a stretch. I personally feel pretty good in ketosis, but I'm not convinced its the elixir to perfect health. Going from a shitty SAD to any type of disciplined and conscious way of eating is likely to improve health and well-being. For those who have always adhered to reasonably well balanced and 'healthy' nutrition habits I think the benefits of the KD will be subtle if any (placebo??). That said I look forward to the growing volume of science on the long term potential of the KD. Good interview.

  9. I'm all in on the physiological responses from lower blood sugar levels. But there's no way of getting around the high-fat intake caveat and the high caloric density of fat. There are more questions than answers at this point in time regarding ketosis. Fats are not very satiating and they pack a lot of calories per gram. Why not simply eat a naturally low calorie diet with satiating nutrient dense foods and occasionally do some IF or fasted training? And having a few meals higher in fat and lower in carbs, vs. vilifying carbs all together. And all of these benefits can be attained in various ways. We can look at the influence of exercise, fitness level, muscle strength, waist circumference, etc. So as can be seen, more questions than answers at this point. I agree, we should be more aware and selective with carbs, but jumping ship on them is a bit risky due to the simple fact of the matter that we still need more evidence and research. Cycling ketosis is probably ok and even beneficial. But we also need to question the "sources" of fats and proteins. Animal vs. plant-based and this ratio. To say ketones are the preferred fuel source for our brain is very premature. It's an alternative emergency energy fuel source. Do we want to run on an emergency fuel source long term? We can find anything bad about anything. Why would ketones and fats be an exception or get a free pass? In closing, I'm fascinated by the metabolic science of lower carb, but we need to be careful and cautious about what we deem as definitive.

  10. “”Cancer metabolism” or stress metabolism typically involves an
    excess of the adaptive hormones, resulting from an imbalance of the
    demands made on the organism and the resources available to the
    organism. Excessive stimulation depletes glucose and produces lactic
    acid, and causes cortisol to increase, causing a shift to the
    consumption of fat and protein rather than glucose. Increased cortisol
    activates the Randle effect (the inhibition of glucose oxidation by free
    fatty acids), accelerates the breakdown of protein into amino acids,
    and activates the enzyme fatty acid synthase, which produces fatty acids
    from amino acids and pyruvate, to be oxidized in a “futile cycle,”
    producing heat, and increasing the liberation of ammonia from the amino
    acids. Ammonia suppresses respiratory, and stimulates glycolytic,
    activity.”
    “In Warburg’s view, cancer has a unique requirement for glucose,
    because of its “respiratory defect.” The ability of cancer to consume
    large amounts of glucose means that the body interprets cancer as
    stress, since the waste of glucose is the key feature of stress. The
    body’s response to decreasing glucose is to produce larger amounts of
    adrenal hormones, especially cortisol. Cortisol raises the blood glucose
    supply by converting tissue proteins into sugar. This hormonal response
    to the sugar appetite of cancer is the main cause of the wasting
    syndrome which makes cancer so serious, and which destroys the thymus
    gland, causing the immune system to lose its guidance. V. S. Shapot’s
    work, showing the involvement of glucose and cortisol in cancer,
    provides part of the context for understanding the implications of
    Warburg’s view of cancer as a “respiratory defect.””

  11. I have been doing the keto diet for around 3 months now. I am a male 57 years old 187 pounds. I find I have much more energy and I am not crashing during the day. I have a lot of energy for working out but my strength has drop. I did go threw about 4 or 5 days when I first started of feeling bad but I increase water and that help. I have not tested by blood but I feel great. Good sleep and it's not hard to get up. Sleeping less about 6 hours but that's all my body is needing. But I do feel hunger all the time. Right now doing 5 % cabs 65% fat 30 % protein. Very hard to stay within these a lot of time going over not a lot but 15 to 20 grams. I have been running 3 miles every other day and have 3 heavy weight lifting days per week and 2 lighter lifting days a week. Eating around 2000 calories a day. But I am always looking and waiting for my next meal.

  12. Decent info, but a bit overboard on the supplements needed; Like most chiropractors. Gets a bit out to see at the end with prayers and other irrelevant discourse.. I half expected him to talk about 'applied kinesiology' at the end with all its pseudoscience. Still, the first half is of value.

  13. Soda and Starbucks have too much sugar and fat in their drinks……………
    Food should not be bad for you…… processed food has too much (trans) fat, salt, sugar and additives in them making them unhealthy. People need to go to their favorite food processors website, click on the CONTACT link and send them an email asking them to reduce the amount of fat, salt, SUGAR and ADDITIVES in the foods they produce. Their common answer is that they are producing what the customers want. You have to let them know that consumers want healthier food choices with less salt, fat, SUGAR and ADDITIVES in them. It only takes a minute to send them an email, tweet, call or text. Food should not be bad for you. There is an obesity epidemic leading to increases in heart disease, high blood pressure and cancer.
    Do something — make a difference

  14. Riding a bike is fun and good exercise………walking, bicycles, mass transit and electric vehicles will all be part of making cities livable. Ride to school………ride to work………ride for fun………..
    Bike to work day should be everyday….. employers need to provide places to park and lock bicycles and encourage employees to ride a bicycle to work. Children should be riding a bike to school instead of being dropped off by their parents. Cities need to do more to provide safe walking and biking trails and paths that connect homes, schools and businesses. Speak up and ask for more bicycle paths in your community. Obesity is a growing problem around the world leading to an increase in heart disease, cancer and high blood pressure. Walking and biking can help improve health. Buy a child a bicycle……your son, daughter, niece, nephew, grandchild or donate one to a local charity as a fund raiser giveaway. You will change a life…………

  15. one needs to look at the ketogenic diet from a different perspective if u are a woman over 50 and like me on a drug that makes u fat …. I IF 24 hours high fat .. Grass fed butter… low protein and only low carb below 50gram.. I have leukemia… look at ur situation and consider the differences from other people

  16. I'm new to Mikes work. But one thing I notice is Mike has a tremendous amount of respect from everybody he interviews. That makes the interview so much more informative.

  17. Love the video. So much great information!

    So what would a very high Beta-Hydroxybutyrate and very low Piconinate indicate on an OAT? Dr. Kalish indicated high B-Hydroxybutyrate means you're burning amino acids which isn't good (I thought high B-Hydroxybutyrate was a good thing!). And the OAT recommended consuming more protein for the low Picolinate but you recommend not going overboard on protein. I've been on a low carb paleo for a few years now. Also have slightly low thyroid function and some adrenal exhaustion… otherwise lean fit 50-something female.

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